[Hidden-tech] Flash - Mozilla/Firefox display problem

Adam Connor adam at littlegreentoaster.com
Wed Apr 4 18:46:31 EDT 2007


Hi Mark,
Peter is correct, your issue is with Firefox's handling of percentage 
based heights.

However, I would second Michael Giles' comment that you should use pixel 
based heights and widths in your HTML for this site.  Flash Player's 
scaling for raster based images (i.e. your artworks) is not so great 
(though it is getting better) and unless you have purposely designed and 
scripted (scripting being the more important of the two in this case) to 
make use of the various scaling options for the stage in flash, pixels 
are most definitely the best way to go here.

Regarding what Dan wrote about utilizing JavaScript to embed Flash, 
while true, it is important to note that this adds the extra requirement 
that users have JavaScript enabled.  At any given time statistics show 
that between 5 and 10% of the user population have JavaScript disabled.  
So, for these users, when they view your site, they would see nothing 
unless you provide non-Flash based content on your site.

Another issue with sites based entirely in Flash is that it hinders the 
ability to optimize the site for both search engines (it doesn't prevent 
it outright, just complicates things) and accessibility.

I'm not trying to sound anti-Flash, I actually love Flash, work with it 
all the time creating animations, applications and games, but I find it 
best to look at it as a tool to be chosen when it best suits the 
requirements of a given project.

Adam Connor
Little Green Toaster
www.littlegreentoaster.com

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> Mark,
>
> One more thing to consider is that IE has an issue with Flash now (lawsuit
> for patent infringement... it was ugly).  You may notice that you now have
> to click once before IE will start enabling clicks.
>
> There is a way to solve both issues at once, and that is using JavaScript to
> enable the Flash object.  You can find information on how to do that at
> http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/
>
> There are some more robust JavaScript libraries out there for this purpose
> as well, but swfobject works nicely and has a nice description of how to use
> it.
>
> -Dan
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> Mark,
>
> I think your issue for Firefox is the width and height parameters in the 
> embed tag:
>
> <embed src="menu.swf" quality="high" devicefont="true" bgcolor="#000000"
> width="100%" height="100%" name="menu" align="middle"
> allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
> pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"></embed>
>
> If you change those to pixels instead of  %, things seem to work on 
> Firefox.  I threw in "600px" for height and "900px" for width and your 
> flash appeared full size.  So if you know the actual/desired dimensions 
> of your flash presentation, just put those in instead of the %.  I'd 
> recommend making the same change in the <object> tag as well.  That will 
> actually make it appear consistently across all browsers.  With the 
> current settings, it scales with the browser window.  So if my window is 
> small, your text is illegible.
>
> -Mike
>
>
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>> Hi, I am new to hidden-tech and new to Flash. I recently published a 
>> web site using (newly learned) Flash. It displayed fine on Safari and 
>> Explorer, and I believe Netscape, but on Firefo not so good. The 
>> parameters for publishing in Flash MX 7.0 for the HTML shell weren't 
>> being recognized properly and it is displaying mocroscopic. Looking at 
>> Forefox's  attributes for the HTML display it indicates a number of 
>> unknowns.
>>
>> I read a few comments from forums on the web, but so far haven't 
>> resolved the issue/ I do not know HTML. Any tips would be grateful.
>> the site is www.knoxworx.com.
>>
>> Thanks, and it is good knowing such talent and expertise is not so 
>> hidden in the area :)
>>
>> Mark
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