[Hidden-tech] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

[Andy Klapper]

I've always thought that the only real solution to spam was to put a small
price on each email.  Small enough that your internet provider would absorb
the cost for a reasonable number of emails per month, large enough that
100,000 to one response rates are no longer economical for the people that
pay the spammers to spam.  Spammers don't spam for ha ha's, they do it
because it costs very little to spam tens of millions of people, and if you
can get 100 of them to buy your fake Viagra you've made a profit.  This
doesn't mean that spam would go away, just be reduced to more targeted
marking, just like what happens with snail mail.

Of course email within a system, say a company's own email server, would not
get taxed.

The downside of course is that any organization that depends on free email
would be hurt.  They could however switch to forums / bulletin boards.

I'm talking about taxing every email that enters the net.  Not the Goodmail
system where you pay for the equivalent of certified mail.



Andy.

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Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?


   ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group, you must be counted to post .
   ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area.


All email will still get through, only the Goodmail will have a stamp or an
icon next to it. Spammers will just pay the $0.025 for each email. They will
figure it's still cheaper than USPS. I don't think it will help. As much as
I hate spam, I'm NOT buying stock in Goodmail.

Rikk



on 2/17/06 1:22 PM, Jonathan Dill at jfdill at jfdill.com wrote:

>  ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group, you must be counted to post .
>  ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area.
>
>
> Has everyone heard about the changes planned by AOL, Yahoo! etc. to
> require "certification" via Goodmail or just be blocked?  There will be
> a fraction of a cent fee to send "bulk" e-mail messages.
>
> http://www.clickz.com/news/article.php/3581301
>
> http://www.goodmailsystems.com/
>
> What will happen to a mailing list such as this one?  Will AOL and
> Yahoo! users just be out of luck or have to get an e-mail account with
> another provider in order to receive mailing lists?  Maybe this mailing
> list is small enough that the fees could be manageable, but I manage one
> mailing list for a small business that has about 45,000 subscribers.  On
> the surface, I guess the certification sounded like a good idea, but for
> a lot of organizations, like this one or any of numerous all-volunteer
> developer projects, it is going to put an unfair tax on e-mail.
>
> Jonathan
>
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