If you don't have a virus scanner, how do you know you don't have a virus? Websites wanting to run a script isn't where I would worry about getting a virus (though it is a worry - you people switched to Firefox yet??? getfirefox.com) I would worry about the other folks who think by clicking "no" they are virus-free who send me cute photos, flash cards, etc. in my email. MY secret for not getting a virus is not enabling preview pane in my email; not opening a file from someone I don't know that has an attachment (and indeed, not opening a file from someone I DO know unless I'm expecting it) and having Norton Anti-Virus on my computer because once your email address is "out there" (and one of mine is sure as heck "out there") you get more junk in a day than you know what to do with; and on average, about 1 out of ever 10 emails I receive has a virus stuck to it. The day they port Photoshop* to Linux is the day I finally, and gloriously, leave the stupid world of Windows. But even after that day, I'll still be helping out people who thought that just by clicking "No" they would avoid getting a virus, and now they're paying me $85/hr to fix their computer. -Sidney * No, Gimp is NOT the same as Photoshop. Ben Liyanage wrote: > ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > ** Remember you must be counted to post . > >I have not had a virus scanner on my computer for nearly 10 years, and I >have not ever had a virus. > >My secret is that I always click "No" when a website asks me if I want to >run a script, or install a program that I was not specifically seeking out. >I hope this little piece of advice helps some of you. > >Ben Liyanage >ben at smartankgroup.com >410.336.2464 > >-----Original Message----- >From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net >[mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net]On Behalf Of >Jonathan Dill >Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:26 AM >To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >Subject: [Hidden-tech] Windows security (sic) > > > ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > ** Remember you must be counted to post . > >Hello folks, > >I do "emergency calls" on computers and wanted to make a few comments >and suggestions about how not to have your computer trashed if you have >Windows. The bottom line is it is probably a lot cheaper--though it >does cost some money--to do a few things up front rather than try to >clean up the mess if you have not made any preparation. > >I have been doing a lot of these calls lately where people "had the >anti-virus software that came with the computer..." which expired in >2001 or something like that. And then his or her teenager stopped by >the office and used the computer "to do homework" ahem, or some similar >instigating incident. And then the next time the computer restarted, >this funny window came up, and someone clicked "OK" and then the system >wouldn't come up after that. OK so maybe a lot of IT people would say >this is stupid / irresponsible / whatever, but in practice, I'm finding >that it is extremely common. My new joke is that I am changing my >slogan to, "NO Windows for you! Linux, Linux, Linux!!!" > >Often, all of the critical system files are deleted or at least trashed, >and if there is no backup, all there is left to do is try to copy off as >much data as I can, re-install Windows, and copy the data back to the >computer. By the time I have run Windows Update for the Nth time and >rebooted for the Nth time, tried to make it reasonably secure, and >copied all of the files back, it takes at least 4 hours. > >If you don't have the original CDs that came with your computer, either >you will be buying new Windows, or ordering the "System Restore" CDs >from the manufacturer and waiting a few days for them to show up--I have >found that some OEM licenses for Windows do not work with just a >standard Windows CD, the Registration Key from the sticker on the side >of the computer may not even be recognized as valid because it is not a >"WPA" license. > >If you have Windows, please check to make sure your antivirus software >has a valid license and that the definitions are updating regularly, >preferably automatically. If you're not sure, get a geek to help you, >or if it's been a year since you last bought antivirus software or an >upgrade, go out and buy the latest Norton Antivirus for Windows. > >If you have a Windows PC that is critical to your business, your friends >and family should not be logging on to that computer to do anything, it >should be just for business as much as possible. Get a second cheap PC >for example from Walmart and let the kids use that. Hey, I know it's >money, but it may cost less to just buy a cheap PC up front than what >you will pay to try to recover your business files if your computer gets >trashed. > >Get an external USB2 disk drive for backups. If your computer is more >than a year or two old, you may also need to buy a USB2 card for your >computer. Maxtor and Seagate are a couple good brands for disk drives. >The disk should be at least twice the size of the total space of the >hard drive(s) inside your computer. Ideally, you should have Windows XP >Professional, and the backup tool that comes with that works fairly >well. Norton Ghost 9 is another good tool. Some external hard drives >may also come with backup software. > >CDs and DVDs may sound like a good idea for backups, but in practice I >find a lot of people just end up not bothering because it's "too >inconvenient." It's much easier to just set up the external backup >drive, make it automatic, and just back up the whole entire thing >instead of trying to pick and choose. That way, you can also have a >complete "disaster recovery" solution where you don't have to re-install >Windows and all of your applications again which is a whole lot more >time-consuming than you might think. > >Lastly, if you have a broadband internet connection, it is essential >that you have a *hardware* firewall / router and that it is configured >correctly. Software firewall might be OK as a 2nd line of defense, but >I do not trust it 100%. If you get one with wireless built-in, make >sure to have an IT geek configure it for you and set up some type of >encryption--I really don't think wireless is a bad idea if it's done >right. If you have a small business with several people and a little >budget for a firewall, Sonicwall TZ170 may be a good choice--it has some >excellent options that you can subscribe to block spyware and viruses >and "intrusion prevention" and such as a second line of defense. For a >home office or a couple people, Linksys is a good brand. > >Jonathan > >_______________________________________________ >Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > >You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > >_______________________________________________ >Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > >You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > >