yes a co-op would be the only way to go. groups of doctors/hospitals do the same thing, they get together and negotiate for their rates. every year they have to fight to just keep the % of the rate the same, the same way the rates go up for the subscribers the fee's for the doctors go down! its a big scam. i always thought my rates for my employees were going up because the doctors were asking for big raises every year and now i see the other side of it and the only one getting more each year is the insurance companies! that said, i just had major surgery last friday and i can't even imagine how much it would have cost if i didn't have really good insurance! matthew > >>>Yikes!!! It sounds like you are all paying through the nose for >your health >>insurance... >> >>I get my bcbs through a company I used to work with in MD for >something like >>200/mo. It sounds to me like a bargaining collective is needed to >drive >>down all of your insurance costs. I know I most certainly don't >cost the >>health insurance companies 24k/yr, and I'm not even paying that much >in >>comparison to you guys... >> >>Though I'm not really shopping for health insurance at the moment, I >would >>be interested in seeing how to set up a health insurance co-op of >sorts that >>could help beat this fat industry down to size. How many people >would be >>interested in this? >> >>Ben Liyanage >>410.336.2464 >>ben at smartankgroup.com >>http://www.benliyanage.com >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net >>[mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net]On Behalf Of >Jeanne >>Yocum >>Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:57 AM >>To: Hidden Tech Discussion List >>Subject: [Hidden-tech] Health Savings Accounts >> >> >>> From: Christian Lagier <clagier at sprynet.com> >>> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:38:59 -0500 >>> To: Jonathan Dill <jfdill at jfdill.com> >>> Cc: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> Subject: [Hidden-tech] Health insurance - HSA experience? >>> >>> Does anybody have any experince with HSAs in Massachusetts? Who >provides >>> them? >> >>Hi, >> >>Having received my April invoice from Harvard Pilgrim yesterday that >showed >>a 14% increase for the year which takes my insurance to over >$400/month for >>coverage for just one person, I called my broker and asked about the >Health >>Savings Accounts that I had heard were coming. They told me Harvard >Pilgrim >>was just introducing one, but the cost of it for me would be over >$500 a >>month! Don't mean to be discouraging, but apparently the pricing on >these >>isn't going to be any more affordable, although perhaps the coverage >is >>better. >> >>Jeanne Yocum >>_______________________________________________ >>Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >>You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tec Discussion >list. >>If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >>You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >list. >>If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > >>page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>