I'm wondering if any Hidden-Tech members have had experience with a specific Beige G3 Mac problem that I've encountered. Up until now, I¹ve never found a Mac problem I couldn¹t solve or at least find an explanation for, but this one has really got me. I have a set of three identical Beige 233Mhz G3 machines that came to my son's school as a donation from Smith College. All are stock and exhibit the exact same symptom when running under OS X, 10.2.x as well as under Panther (10.3) using XPostFacto. I wipe the HD and do a clean install of 10.2 followed by updates to 10.2.8, OS install and apps. At some point, the machine appears to go to sleep. Once asleep, it cannot be awakened. The only option is a hardware restart. It will usually startup, though usually it will boot into OS 9 instead of X. After resetting the startup disk, it will boot into X. Occasionally, however, it will not boot at all and sit with the flashing icon. Booting off the install CD and running Disk Utility fails to find any problem except that you can¹t select the HD as a startup disk. This last I¹m not positive I¹ve experience with all the machines, it may relate to having a Sonnet ATA card installed. However, the sleep symptoms are consistent across all three machines even with no other cards installed. I¹ve tried everything I can think of including PRAM, open firmware NVRAM reset and reset All, swapping in different hard drives, etc. I've spent a lot of hours trying to track this down including Apple's discussion boards and other places and have gotten nowhere. Any ideas? Thanks! Will Loving Will Loving Dedication Technologies, Inc. (formerly Human Data Design) -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- DEDICATION TECHNOLOGIES, INC. (formerly Human Data Design) - Developers of StudioSchool Pro - Professional FileMaker Pro Database Development For Non-Profits, Education and Business ----------------------------------- 7 Coach Lane Amherst, MA 01002-3304 USA Tel:1 413 253-7223 Fax:1 413 253-7078 will at humandatadesign.com http://www.humandatadesign.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-