What would be a big seller for me: syncing contacts with my PDA. That's one thing you can say for act, it's pretty easy to sync it with either a pocketpc (3rdparty software) or palm pda, and easy to sync with outlook (not MY first choice) on the desktop. Ive used the demo latest version of act! 2005 and it's an absolute dog speedwise. horrendous. i suppose if web enabled the data is available if my pda was connected to the net..(sugarcrm touts this approach). shoot me an email Jonathan if you want to hear how the sugar install goes.. im pretty much all setup to just add it on my personal server (already have the infrastructure there: php/mysql). > > -- Thanks, Matt Lampiasi 413-303-9167 http://florenceit.net Florence I.T. , Serving you and your community.