[Hidden-tech] Verizon DSL slow?

[B. Kimo Lee]

Hi All,

Oooh, my first post! New to this list. Good to be here. Hope to make 
some helpful contributions over time and maybe get know some of you.

Matt made some good points below. There's lots of variables that could 
affect your speeds to sites with DSL, such as signal degradation due to 
distance from your C.O., bad routers and Internet traffic. Run several 
speed tests at the following sites to get a general sense of your base 
connection speed:

Broadband Reports
http://www.broadbandreports.com
Click on Test + Tools and do the speed test. (More than once and at 
different times of the day/night.) Lots of tweaks here.

2 Wire
http://www.2wire.com
Click on the "Speed Meter" at the top. Run this several times, the 
first will probably be the slowest due to network negotiation.

Anyway, there's been lots of network latency as of late, which everyone 
seems to be noticing. I've been running into bad routers in the Boston, 
New York City and Newark, NJ areas. I've also heard Road Runner has 
been rebuilding their network in the Southeast, which has been causing 
latency problems. But this kind of stuff goes on all the time.

Happy trails,

Kimo Lee


On Wednesday, April 6, 2005, at 10:35 PM, matthew at the-spa.com wrote:

> verizon made a signifigant change to their dsl offerings a few months
> ago and it noticeably slower.
>
> i don't have any inside information othe than what a customer service
> rep told one of my people (we used to resell verizon service)
>
> but in general large providers like comcast, verizon and aol are only
> able to offer the services so cheaply because what they do is put in
> caching servers between you and the internet. the key is how much
> real bandwidth they have and how much of it is in a cache.
>
> for instance if you goto a very common site like cnn.com you will get
> it nearly instantly because it is stored in a caching server that
> could be as close as western mass.
>
> but if you goto a site that is less common it then you will see how
> much true bandwidth you have because then they have to go out and get
> the site and bring it to you live and "fresh" whereas the cnn.com
> site was "canned" on their server.
>
> cnn might not be the best example because the news changes and the
> servers are very good at sensing that but you probably get the idea.
>
> there are some people who don't just resell verizon dsl but are
> directly connected into it, the only one i know of for sure who does
> that locally is crocker. they have their own dsl switch and they run
> a very large connection directly to verizon and the internet you get
> isn't from verizon but from crockers connections.
>
> there is a huge difference.
>
> basically with both verizon and comcast now offering a connection
> that is 3.0 mbps you have to stop and think, that is basically 2 t1's!
>
> just one t1 will cost you $1150 a month from a major provider like
> sprint, so how can they give you 2xt1=$2300?
>
> the only way to do that is to use a lot of caching servers, that and
> i read not too long ago a comcast executive in an article saying that
> they lose around $1,000 for the first year for each customer they
> switch over to digital cable with a cable modem.
>
> matthew
>
>>
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: fwroberts at mac.com
>> To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
>> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Verizon DSL slow?
>> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:16:08 -0400
>>
>>>   ** This message was posted by a Hidden-tech Member
>>>   ** being a Good Dobee and helping the group
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>>>   ** inventory in the member's area.
>>>   ** So Please signin today and add your information.
>>>
>>>
>>> okay, me too. I've just switched to Verizon DSL because of their
>> $25/mo
>>> offer and now I wish I would have stayed with Comcast broadband.
>> There
>>> is a noticeable difference between Verizon and Comcast.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 6, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Peter Irvine wrote:
>>>
>>>>   ** This message was posted by a Hidden-tech Member
>>>>   ** being a Good Dobee and helping the group   ** by filling out
>> the
>>>> survey/skills
>>>>   ** inventory in the member's area.
>>>>   ** So Please signin today and add your information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I've been having problems with Verizon DSL both at home and
>> in
>>>> the office, both with page loading speed and with sending mail.
>>>> It's a total mystery to me.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Irvine
>>>> Law Office of Peter Irvine
>>>> 76 King Street
>>>> Northampton, MA 01060
>>>> Office: 413-587-0008
>>>> Fax: 413-280-0845
>>>> peter at peterirvinelaw.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 5, 2005, at 11:19 PM, Trace Meek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else out there have Verizon DSL and if so, are you finding
>> the
>>>>> service to be slow lately? I counted 20 seconds for one page to
>>>>> appear. Once within a given domain, pages seem to load quicker. I
>>
>>>>> tried all the usual remedies (restart router, etc.) but the
>> service
>>>>> is still patchy.
>>>>>

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